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Post by Mighty Houndoom on Sept 18, 2019 15:42:51 GMT -8
Now that Ash has won a pokemon league, what do you think will happen?
I think he'll stay to go to Galar. Alola league did NOT feel like a final hurrah for him. He never found his dad, disband TR, met Ho Oh, or even had a final league battle on how I'd imagine it: with him bringing in Pikachu + his aces from other leagues, Charizard/Infernape, Septile, Korkodile, Greninja, Lycanroc/current ace. He can't even enter the champion league, or even looked like he entered a league with a fair way to get through or with mostly qualified challengers (only 2 people who went through where a challenge for Ash).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 9:54:25 GMT -8
Ash has won a couple things before hand like the Orange Island challenge & Battle Frontier. I doubted that Alola would be his last run though. But what's even worse with Journeys is that the writers don't even seem to acknowledge the fact Ash became Alola champion. It really irked me when Leon treated Ash as though he was some newb or something. Like come on, he's been through 7 regions what else he gotta do to "straighten out" or whatever he said?-_- I heard from a lot of people worry that Journey's will be Ash's last time as main character & will be replaced by Goh. While I can kinda see where they're coming from, there's just a lot of reasons to make me doubt. 1.Tons of people hate Goh 2. Ash is still loved, despite just being a main character place holder for writers to mold his personality to see fit 3. The pokemon's mascot is Pikachu. Goh's main pokemon is Cinderace (and is like the only pokemon he uses), he doesn't even have a pikachu anymore. They aren't going to change the mascot randomly after 20+ years.
So yeah, I think the writers are going to have Ash get to battle Leon again only to lose (again), thus Ash having to regroup at home and go at it again for the next gen region. Or... this series could be the end of pokeani, and Ash goes and beats Leon with his top teir team of Pikachu, Charizard/Infernape, Septile, Korkodile, Greninja, & Lucario.
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Post by Mighty Houndoom on Apr 30, 2021 16:37:05 GMT -8
@helloguest That’s true. When he’s won something big, it’s usually referenced the next series. Like when he won the battle frontier, it was brought up that regie lost to Brandon & is what made him give up as a trainer, but then Ash brings up that he defeated Brandon. In journeys even when they went to Alola, it doesn’t get brought up. I kinda figured the anime wouldn’t change much with Ash beating the league, but with how big of deal it was that he actually won one finally, I’m surprised journeys is sweeping it under the rug, even though most of the people in the tournament weren’t big battlers.
A lot of people kinda overreact about some things about goh. Ash never caches much Pokemon, so it’s no surprise that someone whose goal it is to catch more pokemon would catch more than him. He’s got a suicine? Ash had 2 legendaries (3 if you count Neby) in Alola, as well as mallow having one & Lillie getting one at the end. And with Eternus, Goh had to give that up & couldn’t use it if he wanted to. And what’s to say ash won’t get a legendary in journeys? & so what goh is sharing screen time with him? Ash there really ain’t much to do with him to keep him interesting by himself anymore. Yea goh has all galar starters, but ash doesn’t need a starter Pokemon to be the main character. He gotten plenty of those, & the Pokemon he does get are much better than any of the 3 galar starts (no hate). I do have issues with how he got grookie, though...
Ash has his pikachu who just so happens can gigantamax, can screw the rules for the master class cuz Leon liked him, caught dragonite & gangar that goh really wanted... I think they treat ash fairly against goh. I really don’t like how they have him with the go/let’s go catch mechanic though.
If they were going to get rid of Ash for a new main character, the best times would of been after Jhoto or at the very latest, Sinnoh. They could’ve not made all the fillers they did & instead used that time to develop ash, introduce his dad & their relationship, & have Ash win the league. Then when Hoenn rolled around they could have Ash be a traveling companion of May (with her the main character) & mentor her, with Brock still around. I’d be a win-win. Ash & pikachu is still in the series, they get a new character to work with in that moment (& with Hoenn they could focus more on the contest goal like they did being a new thing with RSE). Getting rid of him now for a new main would seem too random. Plus, they even let us know though ash that even if ash was able to beat Leon, that wouldn’t be enough, so I doubt journeys is it for him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 22:04:13 GMT -8
Maybe that's the problem. The league tournament itself was basically a came whomever feels like it. Heck, even Jessie and James where allowed to enter even though they lose to anybody and everybody. It wasn't even on like other leagues like I bet most characters that ether won the other leagues or beat Ash could get the Alola cup. The only one questionable to be able to win it is Cameron and maybe Ritchie. Like the Island Challenge that Ash did was completely pointless! I like some aspects of SM, but they just did not think things through with a lot of things.
I agree. Goh isn't my favorite character, but people seem to just want to hate him just because the writers want Ash to be less of a screen hog. He shouldn't be the pro catcher off the bat and with little effort, and the go/lets go capturing system they suddenly went with in Journeys when they had an established way to catch pokemon before and had Ash and others struggle to catch pokemon is infuriating. Like it took a whole episode for Ash to catch a Cophish, but Goh can catch a butterfree, beedrill, pincer and a bunch of other pokemon in just 1 episode? In fact, I just don't think a main character is good for a complete the dex goal. It just can't really work in a compelling way. While there's like 1000+ pokemon, there's only 6 trainers can use, and little bonding time that can be done with them. And even worse with Goh is that he's completely uninterested in battles and only battles to catch pokemons or get rid of TRio. But yeah the people freaking out over taking Ash's main character spot is pretty ridiculous.
If they give Ash a legendary, what would they give him? A Ho oh? I think that'd defiantly calm the hate with Goh getting suicine, but we are really just lucky Ash remembering seeing it and I doubt a main character would get a box legendary any time soon. Maybe Ash can get another legendary that's part of a trio, or even cooler something like Regieleki would fit him!
Oh no! If they had May take over as thee main character in the Hoenn series the genwhinners would throw a huger hissy fit then they did! Like, even with Goh just sharing screen time is raging the Ash fans. Just thinking about it makes me feel bad for May! She already got enough bs from Misty fans! But I do agree, they ain't getting rid of Ash. Worse I could see is Goh going on with Ash after Journeys, but he ain't taking over the series as the main character.
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Post by Mighty Houndoom on May 1, 2021 17:09:20 GMT -8
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Heck if Ash didn’t enter but May, Dawn, Clemont, or cilan entered the Alola league, they’d probably win if not knocked out by the terrible 1st round (maybe Misty, Brock, & Iris as well). Though it was really cool Ash was able to defeat kukui even when tapu came to aid him.
They really shouldn’t have randomly put in go mechanics in. It makes catches really boring & add that with goh’s goal, it just makes it worst. Your favorite mon caught by Goh & not Ash? Well, he’s doing NOTHING for the rest of the series more than likely. Though ash doesn’t use his other Pokémon besides pikachu & lucario... Is lucario coming along with ash & pikachu to the next series? I bet it’ll piss people off (like greninja), but they’ll find some stupid reason for Ash having to let it go, or leave it with Chole’s dad/professor oak before he leaves. At least he’ll put work in, unlike dragonite, gengar, farfetch’d & dracovish.
Giving ash regielki is just asking the writers he who must not be named regidraco, then it won’t be fair no more!😡 I’d say best bet would be Entrei or raikou. My vote is raikou, he needs more screen time(though Ash would probably just keep using lacario & pikachu even if he caught arceus 🤦♀️).
I would have May gone by sinnoh and Ash would still go to sinnoh though. It’s not like she’d be completely get rid of him like misty & will have the mascot front and center. Goh I can see going on to the next series as he promotes Pokémon Goh, though even though I don’t hate Goh as a character I’d rather him not...
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Post by i4gotmypw(helloguest) on Jul 10, 2021 10:34:46 GMT -8
@mighty Houndoom Yeah i don't know about them beating Tupu Koko and maybe Kukui, but it really didn't seem like they got a powerful champion out it compared to other leagues.
Yes, the GO mechanics should not have appeared in the main anime, expcally when they established so many times previously that just chucking balls will not work well for you most of the time. then Goh comes and 80% of the time he just hits a pokemon with a ball and he gets it. Its also boring to watch. Like ok pokeballs catch pokemon, why not just say Goh caught it off screen while focusing on other things? they did that a lot of times before and they don't even have anything interesting with the catching of pokemon. Well, of course if they have Goh befreind the pokemon someway before catching it or something is fine, bit who cares about him just seeing a pokemon, going "omg I don't have it!" then watch him chuck a bunch a balls on many pokemon and just catch them all. I like him, but I can see how his focus is boring and frustrating.
Lol yikes what are they gonna do with Larcario... Rn I have money on Lucario leaving for some reason they'll come up with in the final season of journeys. "Look kids, Lucario has found a group of tough pokemon he likes to train with, and would rather stay with them then hang with Ash anymore. Bye Lucario! maybe someday, we'll see him again (no we won't)."
Raikou is not cared enough by fans (& obviously writers)! Ash can get a mythical (as he already has in Melmetal), so he should get Zarude or if not a mythical, wynut Calyrex with one of the horses.
Ash fans will still rage. Look how they are acting about Goh just splitting screen time with Ash? And May would be much more hated because not only she took out Misty, but would take Ash's main character spot!
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Post by Mighty Houndoom on Jul 10, 2021 18:01:17 GMT -8
@helloguest Lol wynut
I guess the big thing about the Pokémon anime nowadays is it seemed to be less about adventure and only have intense battles for Ash. Journeys is almost feeling like those tv shows where you really shouldn’t stress about watching every episode to get what’s going on, somewhat like spongebob or family guy. In previous series, you didn’t have to watch anything besides the current season & not be too lost, but since journeys they seemed to have made it so if you missed some episodes it’s not a big deal. Like yes the anime always had filler, but journeys feels way more slice of life & discontinuing from episode to episode. Of course there was that SwSh story arc that they did & Alola it was a little like journeys as well with disconnecting episodes, but it seems like that way with journeys a bit more imo. In any case, I’m fine with other characters not interested in battling, but I wish they can think up better goals for the main characters. Bringing PoGo’s mechanics & having a goal to fit with it just doesn’t really work well.
Oh yea he wants to be strong or something like that. Ash’s charizard could come back to hang with the group for a bit, & lucario & charizard will become bros4lyfe & run off together to be unbeatable & that’s how lucario will leave Ash for the next series.
I was just thinking since Goh got one of the johto beasts, Ash could have the one SE against it. AND I CARE ENOUGH FOR RAIKOU! Maybe if writers gave it more focus people would care for it more! 😢
Goh would obviously get Calyrex cuz he’s the writers fav so he gets the king legendary. Ash would be left with probably the ice horse, as he’s there to make Goh look better & ghost horse is too spooky & has a sad feeling left with it (ghost type=dead mon)! So let Ash should have raikou (that he won’t use anyways) to make fans less upset about the fact ☺️
And the rage over should subside when sinnoh rolls around, cuz May would be gone & ash would be there (just not a main character again). Though in all seriousness, I don’t understand ash fans one bit. They’d rather have ash just be a static character that has a shift in personality when the writers see fit just cuz they can’t handle ash not the main character. It’s hard to think they actually care about ash when they’re fine with this and not letting him actually develop and grow up because they NEED ASH to be the main character. RN it’d be weird to just suddenly change him, but since I did one upon a time cared about him as a character I wish he did stop being the main character at the very latest by the end of DP. Just think how many less critism would be for Black & White anime if Cilan didn’t travel with them (ash would take his place, so people can’t complain so much about cilan), & newbie Hilbert/Hilda where the new main characters aiming to be league champion (keeping ash’s Pokémon master exclusive to him & reason to agree to help them). Iris is their traveling companion & them calling him/her a kid probably won’t bother people as much as it does when she calls ash a kid. Then I would change making Cheren or the opposite gender that’s wasn’t chosen for main character as the rival. No one would complain as much with Hilbert/Hilda acting newbish (as they are newbies) or being weak (as they are just getting the hang of things) or how they regressed as characters (as they’re new characters so they can’t regress). Of course there’s still skyla battle, how they handicap Roxie fight, & Cameron but even with those people would have a lot less problem with BW if they can get over the fact that ash wasn’t the main character. But it’s obvious most won’t get over ash & rather him be the least interesting on the show cuz writers must force him not to develop or anything cuz “he must be main character!!!!”
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Post by i4gotmypw(helloguest) on Jul 12, 2021 9:55:03 GMT -8
I honestly got that feeling with all of alola series and this one. Pokemon became a much less need to watch each episode to get what;s going on nowadays. And it makes sense for them to do that, if they don't care to ever end the anime, there's no point to really having a serious plot or any reason to have continuations with them, unless a small arc. The thing is though, SBSP & Family Guy do it much better than pokemon, at least they used to. Not even a Charizard fan and think the writers overexpose the species in general, but I would be mad with that. I can defiantly see Charizard and Lucario getting along. Though, it'd be very hard for Lucario to be Charizard's training partner, being Steel/Fighting while Charizard is Fire/Flying. Since Raikou is SE against suicune its all the more reason writers won't give Ash one. As you said, Goh is their favorite, so nope. Plus, who'd get Entei, Chloe? in the games, the horse is stronger than Calyrex, as Calyrex needed main character to weaken it to regain control over the horse. So Goh is getting the horse! In all honesty I wouldn't be mad if Ash got Glastrier. The only ice types I remember Ash having is Lapras which was more of Ash's ride, and Glalie which is probably one of Ash's least memorable pokemon. Plus he doesn't need Spectrier when he has Ganger which he struggles using enough as it is. I still think Ash fans would still rage at her for she would be the first to "steal" Ash's main character slot. And yeah, BW would be more tolerable with a new main character, but I could see people still complain over BW because "Hilbert/Hilda stole Ash's role WAAAAH! HATE HIM/HER!" I think even though they can complain that the anime was too repetitive at the time, huge changes like that would be too hard to accept. I know a lot would just say "well, Hilbert/Hilda would just act like Ash, so what's the point of changing!" as well. But with seeing a familiar face that's guaranteed to be seen when they go back to the show is comforting to them in a way, I guess. While Ash flips with personality, at least he's a familiar face, which wouldn't be the case for Hilbert/Hilda or any other character they make the MC. Of course TRio is still around, but they are mostly connected to Ash, which is why they follow him around region to region. It would have been unique though for them to keep Ash in the main cast, just not the main character. Maybe that would go better than what Yu Gi Oh or Digimon did by completely getting rid of the main character for a whole new cast for the next series.
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Post by Mighty Houndoom on Jul 12, 2021 13:26:48 GMT -8
@helloguest Yeah that’s true, though those two series had plan to always be the way they are while Pokemon recently-ish decided to try it out. Charizard & lucario are both overexposed by the whole Pokémon franchise in general, so it makes sense to push out lucario with charizard! And lucario would learn to be able to handle his fire weakness better training with charizard. Well of course if Ash is allowed Raikou then writers favorite can have the other two! That way Goh can have his favoritism & Ash can have a legendary to quiet some of the rage. Goh can’t have the unruly steed! He must have the previously beloved god/king mon! Yeah he did use Lapras for a race in OI & won a challenge with it, but i don’t remember him ever battling with it. Glalie… I forgot snorunt even evolved lol! I think it’s mainly cuz it came so much later in the anime, the writers couldn’t do much with him and just had him to fill up one of ash’s last spot. He doesn’t have a lot of ghost types ether though. Rowlet could’ve been, but for some reason he became obsessed over an everstone. But yea, ash needs to use more Pokémon besides pikachu & lucario. The thing is is that he would still be in the anime with how I want it. The familiar face would still be there, and would be the reason why TRio would still be around. I never understood that arguement of “it would be the same character even if they replaced ash” argument. How similar is Sinnoh ash with Unova Ash? Or Unova Ash with Kalos Ash? I remember someone comparing koopalings with the different ash’s, and it’s true. He may be in a different art style & have some different clothing, but he does very little different & doesn’t have anything unique about him anymore and is mostly liked due to nostalgia reasons. If they had Hilbert/Hilda in the place of ash and have them do everything bw ash did, I don’t think they’ll be many going “omg what a lame ash clone” or at the very least, they won’t see the development Sinnoh Ash as him/her. I’m sure sour ash fans would yell that even if they made him/her polar opposite from ash because they wouldn’t watch it because “ASH SHOULD BE THE MAIN CHARACTER!” But if they replaced ash they can write the character & give them proper development & who knows, feel free to have the character do things differently than what ash would do. I’ll continue the cameo talk from the other thread here… With SDBP they may have Chole do contest. Of course, not holding my breath as they didn’t bring back contest with ORAS (having Serena do them after the series doesn’t mean they brought it back lol). Though I think if they do bring May back they have max with her… maybe even he and Bonnie can meet, which means Clemont could met may.
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Post by i4gotmypw(helloguest) on Jul 12, 2021 16:04:42 GMT -8
Then Charizard would be getting the short end of the stick, unable to grow with any of its weaknesses XC
We all know what happened with the Galar starters. If Goh gets two, he's getting all three. Goh gets all, Ash... has Lucario and Pikachu that's all he needs. Nether of them can have a mean horse that would go out and destroys and harm people, unless Calyrex has his reins in control of the horse, so Goh gets both! See, Glalie is just so forgettable. Probably as forgettable as Palatoad. Its so annoying the reason they gave for not having Rowlet evolve. Because it was too stupid to use that one move without it. I guess they needed 1 alola mon to stay marketable though. The other two starters fully evolved.
And there would lie the problem. People have HUGE issue with Goh just SHARING spotlight with Ash. If they had another character take his role, even if Ash is there people would lose there minds because Ash made the series. And if Ash is just there and not the main character, he'd have to backseat much more and get out shinned much more than they'd like to see. It kinda sucks Ash is just a main character placeholder nowadays with no clear personality and not allowed to really develop as a person anymore. But it keeps everyone happy, as everyone knows who he is if they watched pokemon and like to see he's still on "new" adventures even after all these years.
Yeah I don't see them bringing back contest. Which sucks, because I really enjoyed them in Sinnoh. But if they rather have sexist appeal round ripoffs instead of bringing back contest for ORAS (no offense to Serena, but they gave her a terrible goal), I don't see them deciding in the middle of the series to have contest be the focus anymore.
Hmm would writers have forthwheelshippers dream come true of them meeting in canon? I think with Clemont and Bonnie will have separate visits with May and Max. If they have May and Clemont together I don't think they'd interact much... they really have nothing in common, but I guess they had Iris and Dawn get along, so who knows.
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Post by Mighty Houndoom on Jul 12, 2021 23:30:07 GMT -8
@helloguest Well maybe greninja can get done with getting rid of those bs things endangering kalos & join up being their training bros. That way Lucario can help Greninja with a weakness (fighting>dark) Charizard can help lucario deal with a weakness (fire>steel) and greninja can help charizard with a weakness (water>fire). Works out perfectly! But but… Ash needs a legendary as Goh caught two! They need to throw ash some sort of bone! Fine, Goh can have all 5( Jhoto trio + horse & Calyrex) if ash gets Zarude! I’m sure fans would calm down with that! The thing is, at least Snorunt is a little memorable. Like it’s capture episode it had plenty of personality & a good bond episode for ash. Palpatoad… it just seem to exist to say ash had one. Like for a water Pokemon they obviously had osha… oh. Anyways for a ground type mon he could go to his Unova ace Krokodile. I really don’t understand why the writers thought he needed palapatoad. I guess he also had leavanny & snivy as well though… I also don’t blame them for not wanting to evolve rowlet. Just drawing a bird is hard enough imo. Trying to draw a bigger bird with more designing 😭 Eh again I just don’t understand those people. I’m even hard with accepting changes, but holding back ash from developing or even being a stable character just because they NEED ash to be main character and can’t have him just be a mentor like character like Brock or Cilan… I just can not relate. It’s annoying badge quest was able to go on for 6 regions before the writers were like “okay enough is enough!” But contest can only be for two regions before they decided not to do them anymore… and I don’t want “well in the games there’s no contest in these regions!” There’s no contest in johto or kanto yet the anime made contest exist there. Though I guess contest quest would’ve gotten bland if they decided to continue on with them so I guess it’s a good thing they didn’t. Most of the goals of the anime I find stupid. I mean connoisseur, a goal were you push your opinions on how well they raised their Pokémon on others? NO. There isn’t really any reason for the four of them to all met up together as well, besides “hey look these siblings traveled with ash” but in universe there is none… Also with May’s previous cameo, I think they just showed max with their family watching her contest. Poor little siblings probably won’t get much (if anything) in journeys.
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Post by i4gotmypw(helloguest) on Jul 13, 2021 11:07:51 GMT -8
There is no getting Greninja out of that apull move move they put him in. Sadly, Greninja well forever be getting rid of those bs things to protect Kalos. He may be allowed to take a few days off to see Ash (big maybe), but he's gonna get pushed right back to fight those things after like 4 episodes max. But at least he's not alone and has Zygaurd helping, so he doesn't need Lucario and Charizard. And why would Charizard care about training with newbies?
Ehh I can't see them giving Ash Zarude when they have that movie (coming?) out with Zaurude in it. Remember what happened to the GS ball because of the 4ever movie? Though maybe they can revive that plot finally and Ash can have celebi. Not holding my breath though. Wasn't snorunt like a 3rd mankey though? A little prankster that is obsessed with Ash's hat... Plus besides getting rid of TRio (maybe) I can't remember if Galie actually ko a pokemon. I guess I can't bring up anything with Palpatoad ether though... Even Failalott defeated more pokemon then the both of them combined. I can't draw so I think everything is hard to draw. But really, I can't really think of any of reasons the pokemon give to not want to evolve is stupid. Writers if you don't want a pokemon evolve there's no reason to give a dumb reason they don't and won't evolve, just don't have them evolve!
I don't really agree with them ether and would rather them end Ash's story and put a new main and have Ash the Brock/Cilan role, but as you can see a ton of people will defiantly lose their minds.
The anime does usually make their own rules regarding a lot of things so yeah there was no reason for them to just not have contests in Unova and beyond. I think the main reason why Serena had to have some random new goal not contest is because ORAS wasn't out yet... but idk about the dates on when the writers decided on her goal and when ORAS came out. Well, at least connoisseur has a female counterpart in connaisseuse. If you're a guy and want to be Kalos Queen. TOO BAD.
Oh well, I personally didn't really care for Max that much, and Bonnie was okay for a "can't be trainer yet" character but I wouldn't care too much if she never showed up in the anime again.
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Post by Mighty Houndoom on Jul 13, 2021 17:32:39 GMT -8
@helloguest Well then maybe greninja & zygaurd will need more help, and lucario will volunteer & that’s how lucario will have to leave ash. Greninja isn’t newbish, & lucario isn’t really that newbish ether! Can’t even say “they are babies compared to charizard” ether, as their is no such thing as aging in this universe!
Pfft writers completely have 0 reason to revive that after all these years. Like why would they resolve that plot when they chose to abandon it years ago! It’d be so weird. Plus that poor kid that was goh’s friend. He had more desire to get a celebi & way before ash knew of celebi. Lol guess snorunt is, but at least that’s more than what palpatoad had. Though, there are a lot of things I dislike about BW (more than most usually complain about from what I see from those who watched it) the thing BW was great with was Pokemon personalities (besides palpatoad). Even Iris’s Pokemon had a lot of personality. Lol I can’t really draw well ether, but I find when drawing Pokemon basically any Pokémon that’s not a bird pretty easy to draw. Might be just me though. Piplup has the worse reason. “I think if I somehow evolve, my trainer would for some reason forget the moment we met, so I can’t evolve!” Just… what, piplup?
Well nothing new with writers as I think they’re used to it with a couple of characters leaving the show causing outrage. But sense we don’t think ash will leave, what will they do for next series? Maybe have go & ash stay in vermillion but… gen 9 region & its gimmick will be available to the boys (but ash has to reset his team besides pikachu just cuz).
Yeah and besides contests there was never really a good goal for the other traveling companions. Hmm yea maybe. Too bad, as Serena was stuck with the lame sexist appeal round ripoff. Maybe somewhere out there, there’s a (insert region here) king Pokemon goal, & no girls allowed. You have to go to kalos!
I mainly enjoyed max because he made May more relatable with how siblings acted. At least he wasn’t as annoying after his introduction episode. Bonnie I think they could’ve done without the gag, but she was cute. But in any case I don’t see them bring them back to see ash. I at best see a talk from May/Clemont about their younger sibling, or them watching their older sibling/ash on tv.
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Post by PraiseLordMagikarp on Jul 14, 2021 10:00:03 GMT -8
There we go! That's something lame enough smrt n cretive the writers could possibly come up with for Lucario to not be in the next series! Though... that would require their audience to have watched the end of the Kalos series at the every least, and... so then again maybe not. They have to at least be too far enough away from Charizard's skill level. While fusion form Greninja might stand a chance against Charizard, regular form he isn't going to help Charizard grow. And Lucario would only have a series experience and defiantly won't be on Charizard's level let alone Greninja (even base form).
Lol you think they care about a character who probably just could be a CotD? They might not care about that GS ball plot, but that doesn't mean Ash can't just have a celebi. Plus, those hunters for Suicine could have wanted Suicine way before both Ash and WFC (Writers Favorite Character) were born, but they didn't get Suicune over WFC! CIlan's pokemon though... I can only remember his Pansage, and it didn't have such a memorable personality or a pokemon it bounced off of. Well I don't think the artist for the pokemon anime have problems drawing birds. They had Ash with Pidgeotto for most of OS, Swellow, Staraptor, Tranquil, and Talonflame all evolved birds. I'm sure they were just sensitive of Ash owning "dead" pokemon... or pokemon in the games that are said to like take souls or try to take kids to the afterlife... Piplup was bad, but I don't even know what they were doing with Balbasaur. We just had a episode where it starts up hyping Balubasaur evolving, then... it just refuses to evolve while bully Venasaur tries to force it. Come on writers, no need for trolly filler, JUST DON'T EVOLVE IT.
One would hope Ash (and maybe WFC) would at least find a new spot to chill at for a bit of change of pace, but who knows. If WFC goes on to the next series, will Cinderace be his Pikachu, or is it goodbye before they have to go to the next series for gen 9 pokemon to take it's spot?
Heck even Ash's "pokemon master" goal is just extremely vague and who even knows if Ash knows what he means when he says, "I want to become a pokemon master!" Lol irl that would suck if I want to go and try this thing, but in my region I can't because I'm not a guy. So I have to get a plane/boat ticket to go and do it for the girls only competition.
Max was at best just there for me. He was mostly annoying for most of what he did. Bonnie was just a ten year old who was having fun and wanted the best for her brother, though I admit I could do without the "hey girl, marry my bro!" gag. Watch, the little siblings will not even get a mention, but... Tracey will have a couple episodes in Journeys!
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Post by Mighty Houndoom on Jul 14, 2021 17:21:07 GMT -8
PraiseLordMagikarpTrue writers & the Pokémon company in general only care about gen 1/OS, so they ain’t going to have one of the reasons a Pokémon leave have something to do with a previous gen. Come on, we know writers don’t care about thinks like experience & how much sense that a Pokémon/trainer shouldn’t be able to win against this other Pokémon/trainer. I mean look at Camoron. He beat Ash when Unova was like his 1st league & this was Ash’s 5th league. Greninja & Lucario would have no issues helping Charizard get stronger when those things don’t mean a thing in universe. Oh yes, comparing villains who harmed a Pokémon & would not care for it to another character who wasn’t villainous in any way… seem fair😸 If we want to give Ash a mythical, wynaut Meletta? They don’t have to bring back that Meloetta from BW, but I’m sure that’d make people who cared about Ash getting one then happy. Plus no one (so far that I’m aware of) has a goal of getting it so it’s perfect! Oh yeah Cilan’s Pokémon were pretty boring. They did give ash too many bird Pokémon. Luckily Ash never got Tucannon or corviknight… yet (no hate on those mons). Holy moly like diftfloon is evil! It tries to take little children to the afterlife wtf? And they say dark types= evil, nope. Well they did the a lot with pikachu, troll the audience into thinking pikachu could evolve only to not. They even did it in journeys. But what was up that venasaur? They need to premote gen 9 somehow, so a gen 9 starter will take cinderace’s place. But it’s just so wrong thinking about g- WFC without Cinderace😢 it’s would almost be like the writers deciding to dump pikachu… Ash just tells that to people to sound cool & special. I mean, how many out there say “I wanna beat a Pokémon league!” or “I’m going to be a champion just you wait and see!” Good thing time is a small issue in the anime & plane/boat rides seem so free & easy a 10 yr old can do it by their self. Max wasn’t my favorite character, but he was unique for a little kid character & least. I am grateful the writers didn’t have that awful gag in like every episode like Brock’s gag, but… just what where the writers thinking with that? It’s just weird & creepy! Why would like a 5-7 yr old care that much their 10 yr old brother won’t get a gf/wife? I never tried to get my older brother a gf, writers 🤨 Well, I think there was a cameo with Tracey meeting back up with Ash with misty. Though it’s weird, while the writers shown prof. Oak, it’s like they deleted Tracey. I guess he never came back from cerulean gym 😉
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